tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5080372433953859587.post4875563750250926333..comments2023-08-06T07:02:49.496-04:00Comments on Little Steps Home: Do These Bible Passages Refer to Muhammad? *I* Don't Think So...Amberhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09002997517784638068noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5080372433953859587.post-70727099844469148472009-10-16T01:22:26.671-04:002009-10-16T01:22:26.671-04:00Hey Amber!
I was always more interested in the pa...Hey Amber!<br /><br />I was always more interested in the parts of the Bible that refer to the Arabian peninsula in particular.<br />In the Old Testament there are references to "Kedar" and his flocks worshiping en masse at the house of God. Kedar (Qaidar in Arabic) is the son of Ishmael, and also interestingly an ancestor of Muhammad. The only place where the sons of Ishmael have worshiped the one God at His house is in Makkah. <br />Also there is a reference to God's glory shining forth from Mount Paran, which is next to Makkah. I don't see how Jesus will fulfill this prophecy, unless he comes from Saudi Arabia the second time.<br />Also there are references to "Bacca" in the old testament as well, which is another common name for Makkah, actually the valley in which Makkah lies.<br /><br />I think you are correct that the passages you quoted here are ambiguous, and open for various interpretation. In fact I would say that a very large portion of the Bible is very ambiguous and open to interpretation. If you can find one verse to take and say "see, Jesus is God!" you can find just as many verses to take and say "see, there is no way that Jesus can be God." It all depends on your pre-disposed views, I think. You read in it what you want to read, which is why Muslims look and see Muhammad.<br /><br />InshaAllah soon I will try to come back and put some of the verses with those references up there. I hate quoting without referencing but my Bible is currently at my house.NeverEverhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16822581407125914036noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5080372433953859587.post-5142701282085791742009-10-14T08:46:07.071-04:002009-10-14T08:46:07.071-04:00Susanne,
Ah, others have done so before, and much...Susanne,<br /><br />Ah, others have done so before, and much better than I. This is just what I remember from when I was looking into Islam and came across these things.<br /><br />'I totally cracked up at your "glances over at Middle East." :-)'<br /><br />Well...it does sort of prove the point though...:)<br /><br />Hmm...the ahmahdi or something like that, yeah. They believe that there's been another prophet...I ran into one one time on a message board. Kind of a wacky guy...<br /><br />*nods* It makes very little sense, but at the same time, I understand the thought process behind it. If Islam, as they claim, is the *real* revelation, the same revelation that had been given before and 'corrupted' it should match the revelations given to (at least, since they believe *everybody*'s had a prophet of their own) the Jews and the Christians. However, it doesn't. So, when they can find something that *seems* to agree, they latch onto it, disregarding the actual context of the passage.Amberhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09002997517784638068noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5080372433953859587.post-32420196022379126602009-10-14T08:36:29.883-04:002009-10-14T08:36:29.883-04:00Stacy,
Yep. If you wanna see something bad enough...Stacy,<br /><br />Yep. If you wanna see something bad enough, you'll find it somewhere. Even if you have to rearrange and/or ignore the actual context in the process.Amberhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09002997517784638068noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5080372433953859587.post-43295370374083507692009-10-14T08:35:30.357-04:002009-10-14T08:35:30.357-04:00Candice,
I think it's because they need to fi...Candice,<br /><br />I think it's because they need to find *some* scripture that Christians will listen to. After all, we don't think the Qur'an is anything sacred or divine, so all the 'miracles' and references to Muhammad being a prophet of God in there do them no good...we reject their scripture. *But* if they can find a reference to him in *our* scripture, then, well, that helps them prove their point, or something. <br /><br />Only the parts that disagree with the Muhammad are 'corrupt' the parts that agree are the parts that the 'corrupters' somehow missed in all their rewritting....Amberhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09002997517784638068noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5080372433953859587.post-54299307590068187732009-10-13T20:09:35.678-04:002009-10-13T20:09:35.678-04:00Thanks for addressing these passages, Amber. So in...Thanks for addressing these passages, Amber. So interesting! I totally cracked up at your "glances over at Middle East." :-)<br /><br />I agree with you that most Muslims believe Muhammad is the last prophet. There IS a sect that believes there are more or at least another prophet. I remember my Syrian Muslim friend telling me about them and how they are wrong according to mainstream Islamic views. <br /><br />Totally agree with Candice's comment. I've thought the same thing. Why in the world do you try so hard to prove that Muhammad is in "corrupt" Scriptures?! Hellloooo.Susannehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03115294023069458287noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5080372433953859587.post-2112944321162221812009-10-13T19:37:54.763-04:002009-10-13T19:37:54.763-04:00The Isa. 29 one especially frustrates me. The pass...The Isa. 29 one especially frustrates me. The passage isn't talking about a prophet at all...Oh well people will interpret things the way they want to.Stacy K. https://www.blogger.com/profile/06853574441003653244noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5080372433953859587.post-52960171042763669452009-10-13T12:46:59.275-04:002009-10-13T12:46:59.275-04:00It really is kinda funny how Muslims will tell Chr...It really is kinda funny how Muslims will tell Christians that their scripture is corrupted, but that the truth is in there... It's like a post I saw a while ago. I think it was Pixie from IloveHishma... Wrote about what the dress requirement is for Christian women... But if you believe the sources have been corrupted, how can you be so sure this was the truth for them about what they should wear? That part very well might have been "corrupted" too. Why only parts and not others? Anyway... :pCandicehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15769515811889621243noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5080372433953859587.post-26035121712424183872009-10-13T12:31:12.892-04:002009-10-13T12:31:12.892-04:00Yeah, they seem to be just general pronouncements,...Yeah, they seem to be just general pronouncements, more than, a specific person. Though the Deuteronomy reference is *always* taken to refer to Jesus in Christian circles. <br /><br />Hmm...I don't know that either religion supports the idea of further prophets. Both seem to think that Jesus (Christians) or Muhammad (Muslims) was the last one. I get that it's your personal belief, it's just one that I don't normally hear from either camp. :)<br /><br />Advocate/Paraclete, the specific word doesn't translate to Holy Spirit, no, but the reference is to the Holy Spirit. <br /><br />'The world cannot accept him, because it neither sees him nor knows him. But you know him, for he lives with you and will be in you. (John 14:17)' doesn't, to my mind, speak of a physical person. The world (at least for his lifetime) *would* be able to see him. And a physical person wouldn't be able to 'be in you'. Only a Spirit can indwell another human being.<br /><br />But again, it's only my understanding. As you say, God only knows. :)Amberhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09002997517784638068noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5080372433953859587.post-62191720245649633922009-10-13T12:06:03.729-04:002009-10-13T12:06:03.729-04:00Makes sense to me. I never took them to refer to ...Makes sense to me. I never took them to refer to a specific person. I think it is a reference to those that will come to teach us in general. Not ONLY Jesus or ONLY Muhammad. But I believe there will be more prophets before the end of days so who knows lol. I just don't think we are done yet. We still have too much to learn.<br /><br />Advocate I took to mean someone else coming. The word really doesn't translate well to Holy Spirit but that's due to my interpretation of the title Holy Spirit. It could mean Jesus returning at the end of days for sure. It could also refer to other prophets to come who will continue to teach the people in God's name. Who knows, I sure don't lol.LKhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06170091976914539273noreply@blogger.com